Kristol on Stewart - War with Iran "not a bad idea"

If you didn't catch the Daily Show last night they once again had on Bill Kristol.  I'm not sure why they continue to let him have air time other than he always comes off looking like a complete moron and people laugh at him, not with him.  The majority of their conversation was about Iraq.  At one point Kristol said that you shouldn't trust people like him but you should trust "critics of the war" like Ken Pollack.

Stewart responds suggesting people like Pollack aren't exactly critics of the war because

Ken Pollack would like us to invade Iran

Kristol of course laughs because to people like him this is funny.  His response to invading Iran

It's an idea, it's an idea...it's not a bad idea.

Not a bad idea.  Chuckle chuckle.  You can watch this asshole at The Comedy Central site.

In other news, the local group Women Against War put up a billboard saying

Iran next?  No war, no way.

Unfortunately I don't have confidence that sane people will win out over the chuckling evil fucks like Kristol.  

•  What a tool he was.

  It was embarrassing to Jon to have this schmuck on the air.

  by khereva on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:55:09 AM PDT

  •  What a tool

    He was and still is. Was Jon forced to have this clown on the show, or is he just hoping he'll hang himself with his words?

    by TimCbrowne on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:04:37 AM PDT

•  Kristol is a broken record that continues to spin

  one tune.  War!  It's whats for profit!

  by funluvn1 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:55:54 AM PDT

•  Haven't seen it yet

  but will when I get home - it's on the DVR. Other than to laugh at him, which isn't very PC because he's obviously mentally challenged, why would anyone listen to him? Has he ever been relevant?

  by Phil N DeBlanc on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:58:01 AM PDT

•  I watched it last night on TV. It was an

  interesting interview because Kristol always laughs when he talks about killing people.  He did that through the whole interview.  What kind of mind laughs at the thought of killing people?

  by KatHart on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:59:21 AM PDT

  •  Sociopath...

    someone who completely lacks empathy.

    You could look it up. From the DSM-IV, characteristics of a sociopath

    Glibness and Superficial Charm

    Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

    Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

    Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

    Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

    Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

    Incapacity for Love

    Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

    Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

    Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

    Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

    Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

    Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

    Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

    Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

    by kmiddle on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:08:16 AM PDT

  •  War! Ha ha ha!

    War may not be a joke, but Kristol sure is.

    by lysias on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:41:57 AM PDT

  •  Bush also smirks and chuckles when he talks

    about violence against enemies.

    by lysias on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:05:52 AM PDT

•  Hate to say it, but Kristol won big time.....

  His last comment to Stewart: "(Petraeus) thinks you're a pussy" was perfectly timed and brought down the house. Sometimes JS can be a little too ingratiating with people he personally likes and last night was one of those times. Kristol took game, set and match.

  by Azdak on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 06:59:28 AM PDT

  •  seemed rehearsed, eh?

    fuck kristol.

    by stagemom on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:08:38 AM PDT

    •  Petraeus the political general

      is about to lose his reputation big time.

      by lysias on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:42:43 AM PDT

      •  I find it interesting

        how every keeps saying, "its going to be ok now, Petraeus is on the job!".  

        Next up, General Tinkerbell.

        by onemadson on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:44:39 AM PDT

        •  "We've got the right plan in place..."

          Yeah F*CKHEAD, after 2 and half years of screwing around?

          NOW we've got it right?  We've just been tinkering until now?  F*CK YOU!!

          Funny, I don't remember you and the apologists clarifying that point during the last 2.5 years of mistakes!

          It was always "making progress" and "give it time".

          NOW all that was just preseason warmups?  Petraeus will fix it?  Too bad about those 3,000+ US casualties, huh?

          This chuckling clown deserves his own engraved waterboard ~ and he'd last about 4 seconds.

          Have I mentioned today how much I hate these people?

          by JVolvo on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:54:32 AM PDT

          •  don't forget the 600,000 dead iraqis--

            let's see:  how many muslims does it take to avenge 3,000 deaths on american soil?  

            by stagemom on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:35:11 AM PDT

      •  I was hoping Petraeus lost his reputation

        with the loss of 250,000 American weapons.  Apparently the media no longer cares about waste, fraud and abuse.  

        by KatHart on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:52:11 AM PDT

      •  not so much about the general, as it

        is about stewart.
        i see today the swiftboating of jon beginning.
        i read somewhere that on radio they are starting to rip him on his post 9 11 show.
        this is orchestrated.  kristol was rehearsed to zing his zinger right before the music and start the meme of jon as wimp...
        ratfuckers!

        by stagemom on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 02:58:17 PM PDT

  •  Gee, such a mature comment

    coming from the guy who impugned Markos for not being respectable.

    by bumblebums on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:12:53 AM PDT

  •  Um, no

    Granted, he made a funny joke at the end.  

    Apparently you missed the part when Stewart asked why all the hatred on the right is misplaced towards anti-war people, you know, like us.  Instead of owning up to some mistakes, they consistently try to demonize "us" instead of accepting any semblance of responsibility for planning and execution of this war.  Kristol had no response.

    Real debate winner:  Stewart
    Cheap joke winner:   Kristol

     

     

    by Suburban Blue on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:13:11 AM PDT

  •  Scum scion of scum pundit king

    Kristol.
    Just reading his name makes my skin crawl.
    The evil spawn. Yeech. Gotta go take a shower now.
     

    by bunny99 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:31:55 AM PDT

  •  Wrong

    granted Kristol did make a funny at the end but the rest of the time he was red faced embarrassed and had no defense for Stewart calling out the right on their "debate" tactics. Like Stewart said you make it hard to forgive original sin.

    by rapala on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:38:52 AM PDT

•  Please tell me Jon called

  him a douchebag. Naw, I know he's always kind to his guests, but he really should go all 'Tucker Carlson' on this creep and vow not to have him on again.

  Jon, he's hurting America.

  by HighSticking on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:00:49 AM PDT

  •  no such luck

    he did make several good points that I thought made kristol appear to be blatantly lying about everything (at one point he said, "so I've been against this war  from the beginning, if the surge doesn't work I won't to understand why that is my fault").  Kristol then preceded to tell him why it would be his fault.  

    by onemadson on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:04:31 AM PDT

    •  I believe he

      said, "want to understand" not "won't to understand" but you know how these transcriptions can go.

      by onemadson on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:05:53 AM PDT

  •  that's the difference between

    a Republican talk-show-host  -  Bill O'Reilly

    and

    a Democratic talk-show-host  -  Jon Stewart

    One yells at people to "shut up", turns off their mics, and pontificates about hoping major American liberal cities be demolished by terrorists.

    The other is sane.  And allows even "evil" people like Kristol to make their points.  Jon allows these people to dig their own graves with their very own insanity.

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 09:01:32 AM PDT

•  Kristol and Cheney

  How can these two be so wrong on so many things so many times and still command any kind of audience? If I was at work and was wrong on important issues (not so much "greet us with flowers", "last throes", "surge is working", "Iran!", but instead "fourth quarter budget", "ordering supplies", "site coordination") I would be so extremely fired and blackballed that I wouldn't even know what hit me. Bill Kristol needs to go lecture to people on his own intellectual level: pre- schoolers, particularly during nap time.

  by TimCbrowne on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:01:13 AM PDT

•  One thing about Kristol

  Once you buy him he stays bought.

  by Carbide Bit on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:02:57 AM PDT

•  Jon has a difficult time

  rebutting Kristol.  Jon needs to be more confrontational and serious.  Like he was against the MSM in his appearance where he confronts Tucker Carlson.

  by nolalily on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:07:03 AM PDT

•  Well, he is right

  it's not a bad idea....it's a spectacularly horrendous idea. Kind of like the idea to invade Iraq.

  Bill Kristol's never met a spectacularly horrendous idea he didn't like.

  by elmo on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:08:29 AM PDT

•  John Took Him to Task

  I was impressed

  by owl06 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:21:02 AM PDT

•  Chaining Bill Kristol to the Back of a Hummer

  ....dragging him a good ways down Inkster Road and cutting him loose in front of a Lebanese party store.

  It's an idea, it's an idea.

  Of course, unlike Bill Kristol, I have the perspective to recognize that "it would be wrong."

  by greenskeeper on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:28:09 AM PDT

•  Kristol is a trash talker IMHO...n/t

  by quantumspin on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 07:46:15 AM PDT

•  Another Republican Attack Dog

  repeating the same thesis over and over again, no matter how many times it turns out to be false:

  

  by dhonig on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:47:57 AM PDT

•  Stewart's interview with Bill Moyers revealed ...

  ... that very few right-wingers will agree to come on his show. So I suppose the chance to have Kristol was too much to pass up. Pity, that .... it hurt to watch.

  by highfive on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 08:54:38 AM PDT